Whenever he holds the upper hand, he goes about the earth corrupting it, destroying (peoples') crops and animals. God does not love corruption. (Qur'an, 2:205)

Only the Turkish-Islamic Union Can Halt the Bloodshed

Muslims are living under difficult circumstances in various regions of the world. The people of East Turkestan in the extreme West of China, for instance, have been exposed to severe repression for the last 60 years in particular. The number of people killed in East Turkestan together with post-1965 massacres is the unbelievable figure of 35 million.

Muslims have been slaughtered in Palestine for some half a century. They live the lives of exiles in their own land. Reports of deaths flood in from Iraq on an almost daily basis. Our Kirkuk brothers live in constant fear of death. Muslims in Crimea are trying to survive under the harshest of conditions. The blood of Muslims is shed almost every day in Afghanistan, and thousands of Muslims have become refugees in their own country in Pakistan. Only recently, Bosnian Muslims were subjected to ruthless genocide in the heart of Europe, before the very eyes of the world. Prisons in many countries are full of Muslims arrested because of their ideas and faiths. These sufferings, killing, troubles and woes are nothing new. Muslims have been ruthlessly oppressed for around a century now. This corruption and bloodshed can be brought to an end only by the establishment of the Turkish-Islamic Union. The Turkish-Islamic Union is the clear and certain solution, the salvation of Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, East Turkestan, the Crimea, Kirkuk and Moro. It is essential for the Turkish-Islamic Union to be established for the shedding of Muslim blood to stop, for the poverty in Islamic countries to come to an end, for the disorder, anarchy and terror in the Turkish Islamic region to be completely eliminated and for a peaceful, secure, prosperous and enlightened civilization to be built. It is impossible for a disunited Islamic world to protect Muslims from coming to harm. Only when the Muslim world, with its 1 billion or so population, will not a hair on the head of a single Muslim anywhere be harmed. Unity lies at the heart of Islamic moral values. Allah reveals in the Qur'an, in the words "...If you do not act in this way (do not help one another and become friends) there will be turmoil in the land and great corruption." (Surat al-Anfal, 73) that believers must be friends and allies, united and unified, for the corruption in the world to come to an end. The Turkish-Islamic world must demand this union. Failure to demand union means demanding division instead, and division is of no use to the Turkish-Islamic world. Muslims' strength, power and best interests all lie in unity.

The only way to put a stop to Chinese repression and to achieve an accurate result is the foundation of the Turkish-Islamic Union. A united Turkish-Islamic world will be an extremely deterrent and effective force.

Occupation, repression and sanctions have brought the region nothing but tension, disorder and hatred. The days of exploiting nations by such means are dead and gone. For that reason, if China permits the people of East Turkestan to govern themselves and grants the country economic independence it will gain enormous advantages. An East Turkestan able to manufacture freely within its own borders, living in freedom and freed from the influence of fear and oppression, can represent a new center of progress for China.

These rights can be given to the people of East Turkestan thanks to the Turkish-Islamic Union, which will enjoy great power and authority. If such a power acts as guarantor, China's relations with the millions of Muslims in the country will be strengthened. China must be convinced and given guarantees that an East Turkestan that is emotionally bound to the Turkish-Islamic Union will not behave in a hostile manner toward China but will contribute to China's becoming a super-power.The world needs peace, love, solidarity and justice. And that is the mission that the Turkish-Islamic Union will assume when it is set up. This union will exist to bring peace to the world, not to be an instrument of hostility, vengeance or menace. This union will not be one based on oppression and repression along the lines of "everyone must be subjects to us, and anyone who does not must be enslaved." The Turkish-Islamic Union is a union of love. It is a union of affection, a union of hearts. The bases of this union are love, altruism, helping others, compassion, tolerance and understanding. The aim of the union is also to achieve the highest levels in respect for human beings and in art, science and technology. Once the union is established, not just Turkish societies and Muslims, but the whole world, will attain enlightenment. The Turkish-Islamic Union will ensure full freedom of worship, belief, opinion and expression. Members of all faiths will be able to worship as they wish, to visit all the sacred sites of their faith, and the goods, lives and honor of people of whatever opinions or beliefs will be guaranteed by the Turkish-Islamic Union.


When the Turkish-Islamic world is united, there will be no possibility of Muslims being persecuted, denigrated, oppressed are slaughtered, and such things will never even cross anyone's mind.

With the founding of the Turkish-Islamic Union, America, Europe, China, Russia, Israel and in short the whole world will breathe easier. Terror will come to an end, distribution of raw materials will be guaranteed, the economic and social order will be protected and cultural conflicts will disappear entirely. America will no longer have to send troops to lands thousands of kilometers away, Israel will no longer live behind walls, the countries of the EU will encounter no economic barriers, Russia will have no more security concerns and China will have no trouble finding raw materials.

The Turkish-Islamic Union will cause regeneration throughout the Muslim world. Thanks to the Islamic common market to be set up, products from one country will be easily marketed in another, without becoming caught up in quotas or national frontiers. Trade zones will grow, all Muslim countries will enjoy an increase in market share, exports will rise, leading to an acceleration of industrialization in Muslim countries, and economic development will lead to technological advances.A Turkish-Islamic world with a powerful economy will be a major cause of prosperity for the Western world and other societies. These societies will find a power with which they can co-operate and engage in mutual trade with no feelings of concern. In addition, the funds that Western institutions and organizations constantly pour in for the region to regenerate will no longer be required, and these funds will be used to strengthen the global economy instead.

Contrary to the scenarios of clash of civilizations, this union will draw civilizations closer to one another. As a result, the whole world will benefit from the climate the union will bring about.

There is no obstacle to the establishment of the Turkish-Islamic Union. All that is needed is the will to unite. This union must be genuinely desired, and Muslims must treat one another with love, understanding, humility, affection and compassion, never forgetting the fact they are all brothers.


The efforts being made today to stir up ethnic conflict in East Turkestan are extremely dangerous. Our Muslim brothers in East Turkestan have been subjected to various difficulties for the last 60 years or so, but have never turned to violence and conflict. The Uyghur Turks are a noble people, known for their good manners, honesty, fortitude, reconciliatory natures, obedience to the state, loyalty and devotion. These fine people possess excellent virtues, such as forgiveness, loving peace, lovableness, respect for different ideas and beliefs and judging people according to their moral values rather than their race. There has therefore never been any conflict based on ethnicity with the other peoples living in the region, especially the Han Chinese, and neither will there be any in the future. The Uyghur Turks want a climate in which everyone can live together in peace and security, respecting the right to life of everyone in East Turkestan, no matter what their religion or ethnic origin. Some of the main ways in which this can be brought about are as follows:

1. It is obvious that the Uyghur Turks favor peace and security. But peace in the region can only be ensured if the security of our Uyghur brothers is guaranteed. The international community has important responsibilities in that respect. The support of international societies and organizations is essential if it is to be possible for our Uyghur Turk and Chinese brothers are to be able to live in peace. Democratic pressure from these organizations, especially the UN, on the Chinese government, will ensure that the administration follows a line that is more peaceable toward the problems and legitimate demands of our Uyghur brothers and respects their human rights. When the necessary encouragement and direction is provided, when the international community acts as a guarantor, it will be easier to establish peace in the region.

2. It is natural for China to be keen to protect its national and economic interests. But this cannot be established through oppression and aggression. The path that will make China prosperous and strengthen its economic and social regeneration lies in a conception that respects human rights, is democratic and loving, and that defends freedom of ideas and belief. The only solution that can calm Chinese fears, such as lack of access to energy resources, economic losses, loss of territory or fragmentation is the foundation of the Turkish-Islamic Union. The Turkish-Islamic Union will establish an environment in which borders are lifted, there is freedom of trade and investment and in which all communities have equal access to energy resources. In this way, China will be able to spread its investments over a wide area from Tanzania to Indonesia and sell its good across a wide territory, and Muslims will be able to invest in China on a large scale. China will regenerate rapidly with the establishment of the Turkish-Islamic Union, will be spared from having to use its citizens as a cheap labor force and will enjoy abundance and plenty all over.

3. Islam is a religion of peace. All forms of violence are sinful in Islam. In the Qur'an, Allah commands Muslims to be forgiving. A Muslim who abides by the Qur'an and follows our Prophet (saas) has a duty to be peace-loving, affectionate, loving, compassionate, patient and moderate. The moral values of the Qur'an oblige Muslims to control their anger, to respond to evil with good, to always speak and behave in a pleasant manner, to forgive under even the most difficult circumstances and to behave justly, even if that conflicts with their own interests. The spread of and learning about Islamic moral values is a great benefit for China. If the Chinese government is concerned about the Han Chinese taking in action in terror attacks and wishes to avoid anarchy and violence, then it must encourage the teaching and dissemination of Islamic moral values. In a China inhabited by people who live by the moral values of the Qur'an there will be no need for military occupation and security measures. The unrest and unease will come to a complete stop. The result will be a society made up of individuals who trust and respect one another, treat one another with understanding, are respectful of and loyal to the state and who all live in peace, that spends its money on the wealth of its own citizens instead of military investment, without investing millions of dollars in armaments and employing thousands of security personnel. And the order and equilibrium sought by China will be established naturally.

4. Our Uyghur brothers' demands for humane conditions, to live freely according to their religion, to be able to worship as they wish, to protect their own culture and maintain their own existence are all justified and human ones. The most effective way of bringing these about is for the Uyghur people to make a cultural leap forward, to improve themselves with an anti-materialist and anti-Darwinist education, to increase their economic strength, and strengthen themselves both materially and spiritually. The Turkic Uyghur people must not forget that they are the most important representatives of Muslims and Islam in China. They must act as models to the Chinese people with their good manners, nobility, modesty, balance and moderation. An Uyghur people who are culturally advanced and materially stronger will clearly have wide opportunities to defend their own rights and also to describe and spread the moral values of Islam. By Allah's leave, the future of an Uyghur society that loves Allah, protects its own national culture, is anti-Darwinist and anti-materialist, whose members love one another, which perfectly implements Qur'anic moral values and supports peace, love, tolerance and compassion, will be a very bright and excellent one.

The time we are living in is a very holy one, in which Hazrat Mahdi (as) will appear and in which the Prophet Jesus (as) will return to Earth. The time has now come when war and conflict will come to an end, when armament will come to an end, when people will love and embrace one another as brothers, when they will trust one another and when moral virtues will reign. This is the destiny of Allah. That destiny will also manifest itself in China, and this will be a time when Chinese and Uyghurs live together in friendship, when they all attain wealth, and when they build a bright civilization with joy and enthusiasm.


Many thinkers today describe the future of the Turkish-Islamic world as something having a direct impact on world peace and security. With its population of some 1.5 billion, its underground wealth and strategically important location, the Turkish-Islamic world is a great power.

Most Muslim countries were under colonial occupation until World War II, and became independent only after it. This led to important changes in global politics. The real change in the Turkish-Islamic world began with the ending of the Cold War. The Turkish-Islamic world came to represent a Eurasian expanse of land stretching from Albania and Bosnia to Chechnya and Tajikistan. The change in Muslim settlement patterns also affected the Turkish-Islamic lands.

Until the 20th century, apart from short-lived occupations, Muslims had generally inhabited lands under Turkish-Islamic rule. From the early 20th century on, however, they began migrating to Europe and America, where they came to represent a significant part of the population.

Islam is now the most rapidly rising faith in the United States and many European countries and the increasing numbers of Muslims are enabling them to play an influential role in social and political life. In this way, the Turkish-Islamic region is not just restricted to countries with a majority Muslim population are under Muslim control. This provides a significant advantage for the Turkish-Islamic world but also brings with it problems that need to be solved without delay.

There Is No Center to Represent the Turkish-Islamic World

One of the most striking characteristics whenever the Turkish-Islamic world is considered is the rupture in communications among Muslims. There have been wars between Muslim countries, such as the recent Iran-Iraq War, the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait and the war between Pakistan and Bangladesh. The civil wars and conflicts in so many Muslim countries due to ethnic and political questions, such as in Afghanistan, Yemen, Lebanon, Iraq or Algeria, show that Muslims are far from having attained the requisite level of unity. The fact that the Turkish-Islamic world has been unable to achieve internal unity has caused many Muslim countries to lag behind in development. Although the Turkish-Islamic world possesses broad material resources human potential, it has not yet reached the desired level in science, technology, art or education.

There is therefore an urgent need for a central body that will overcome the rupture in communications between countries in the Turkish-Islamic world, resolve issues and bring about social, political and economic union.

Very different religious views, interpretations and models apply across the Turkish-Islamic world. There is no central body to determine what is compatible with Islam and what is not, to direct the Muslims of the world in general on the subject, and to reconcile them with one another. The Catholics have the Vatican, for instance, and Orthodox Christians have the Patriarchate, but there is no central body to establish unity on religious and social matters.

Yet unity lies at the heart of Islamic moral values. Following the death of our Prophet (saas), the Islamic world was led by the Caliphate which served as a guide on social and religious issues.

There is an urgent need today for a contemporary center to guide the Turkish-Islamic world and be effective in the resolution of day-to-day issues. It will only be possible to establish decision-making bodies based on democratic principles and the supremacy of law through the establishment of the Turkish-Islamic Union.

Such a union will play an important role in eliminating disagreements and conflicts, in developing co-operation between countries and in Muslims acting as one.

The largest Muslim organization to gather Muslims together under one roof today, in terms of delegate numbers and their geographical distribution, is the Organization of the Islamic Conference. In addition, there are also various trade and military alliances among Muslim countries in the region, as well as regional alliances. All of these are important steps in terms of developing a spirit of union and solidarity. But the Turkish-Islamic world needs a comprehensive union with permanent institutions and decision-making powers to develop and implement common policies, to be the common voice of all Muslims, and to take an interest in and resolve the problems, not just of certain regions, but of the whole Turkish-Islamic world.

Efforts Are Being Made to Develop an Artificial "Clash of Civilizations"

The Turkish-Islamic world must become a single military, political and economic bloc. A Turkish-Islamic world that has established internal unity will also guarantee world peace and provide no environment for certain radical elements and supporters of a "clash of civilizations." It particularly needs to be said that solutions must be implemented as a matter of urgency. Because every day sees efforts to create an artificial "clash of civilizations" between the Turkish-Islamic world and the West. The founding of the Turkish-Islamic Union will totally eliminate this danger.

Historical experience clearly shows different civilizations living together is no reason for tension and conflict. Nonetheless, there are those who want enmity and conflict rather than tolerance and reconciliation in both the West and the Islamic world.

Members of different faiths killing and exiling one another is nothing more than an error of radicalism. In essence, Allah has sent all three faiths down to earth and these religions all command peace, love and brotherhood. For that reason, it is incompatible with religious moral values to stand up in the name of religion and incite fighting and conflict. Religious devotion is a totally different thing to inflicting harm by way of various false beliefs that are not present in the holy scriptures and that were added on subsequently.

Allah forbids evil and corruption. He holds no society above any other, but says that superiority lies only in taqwa (sincere and genuine devotion to Allah). Allah says in the Qur'an:

"Mankind! We created you from a male and female, and made you into peoples and tribes so that you might come to know each other. The noblest among you in Allah's sight is the one with the most taqwa. Allah is All-Knowing, All-Aware." (Surat al-Hujurat, 13)

When conflict erupts somewhere, true believers' duty is to douse the flames and protect peoples' lives and property. When the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) returns, as the members of all three revealed faiths await, he will bring with him peace, love and brotherhood.

Therefore, true believers have a duty to comply with Allah's pronouncements regarding peace and love clearly stated in the holy scriptures and through His messengers. The establishment of the Turkish-Islamic Union that embraces the essence of Islamic moral values is essential for this climate of peace and security to come about.


Allah commands unity to Muslims. When Muslims abide by this commandment of our Lord's, all the problems of the Turkish-Islamic world that have persisted for around a century will disappear and a powerful civilization, the like of which has never been seen before, will be built.

Unity in world politics, international unity among countries, is essential for national security and economic interests. Underground resources, trade zones and even cultural values play an important role between such states based on geographic location. Many countries in the same region unite their resources under the umbrella of such organizations, set up defense pacts and collaborate in other fields. The aim in such international institutions is to maintain peace, resolve disputes by diplomatic means, bring about economic and social development and defend such universal values as human rights and democracy. Such a union will clearly also be of enormous benefit to the Turkish-Islamic world. The most important measure for peace and security and the establishment of well-being in the Turkish-Islamic world is for it to unite under the Turkish-Islamic Union.

The Turkish-Islamic Union Will Provide Peace and Security

A problem anywhere in the Turkish-Islamic world will have a direct impact on the whole region. Tension in the Middle East makes itself felt in North Africa. Events in the Caspian affect the future of the Middle East. What happens in the Persian Gulf is of direct concern to Southeast Asia.

This means that conflict, problems or tension anywhere in the Turkish-Islamic world will be felt in all countries. In addition, the consequences of such tensions will be felt politically and economically. The same thing also applies to a climate of peace and security, of course. For long-term tensions, such as the Arab-Israeli question, to be resolved peaceably will naturally have a positive impact on the Turkish-Islamic world and the entire world.

Throughout the 20th century, much of the Turkish-Islamic world suffered lengthy wars, conflict and instability. This led to resources being wasted, an almost total halting of economic development, living standards falling to very low levels and, most important of all, to the deaths of millions of Muslims.

There are disagreements among various Muslim countries today, and tensions escalate from time to time. Wars and conflicts between Muslim and non-Muslim countries is another cause of unease and instability.

With the construction of a Turkish-Islamic Union founded on love and brotherhood, the tensions and insecurities within the Turkish-Islamic world will come to an end. Musims will regard one another as brothers and work together.
With the genuine and close relations they establish among themselves, they will not allow events to become insuperable. Central decision-making bodies established with joint participation will enable problems to be resolved quickly and permanently while observing the rights of all parties. Disputes and conflicts that have lasted for decades will thus immediately be brought to an end and a climate of peace and security will arise in the region. And a climate of peace and security in the Turkish-Islamic world will of course have a positive impact on the whole world. By Allah's leave, these positive effects will also bring countless social and economic advances to the Turkish-Islamic world.

Different Cultures Will Constitute Cultural Wealth for the Turkish-Islamic World

The different cultures and ethnic roots within the Turkish-Islamic Union will turn into great wealth in an enviroment of peace. In a climate of tolerance and dialogue, people will be more open and creative in their ideas, and a very rich civilization will be built as different cultures coalesce together. This great civilization will be instrumental in significant advances in art and science, and will make the region a source of light illuminating the whole world, as it had once been in the past.

In a climate of peace, it will be possible for the Turkish-Islamic world to benefit from its members' experience and heritage. Peace will be instrumental in Muslims strengthening their forces in all fields, making good one another's deficiencies and thus becoming much more effective.

Peace will allow all countries to reduce spending on arms and for that money to be spent on social well-being instead. Since all member countries will also be members of a joint defense pact, powerful defense and protection can be established with a minimal budget. In this way, investment in the arms industry and weapons technology can be diverted to progress in health, education, science and culture.

The current instability and conflicts in certain parts of the Turkish-Islamic world are the cause of migration to other countries. Many doctors, engineers, academics, scientists, thinkers and writers are migrating to the West and continuing their work there because they do not feel safe in their own countries.

With the elimination of internal tensions in the Turkish-Islamic world, a cimate of peace will prevent the migration of well-educated individuals and allow them to meet their needs in their own countries.

The peace to be constructed in the Turkish-Islamic world will also be a model for all the countries of the world. The Muslim world will be adopted as a model in the resolution of problems taking place across the world by peaceful means. Muslims will be living examples of how people can attain peace and security when they live by the moral values of the Qur'an, and people will witness how Islam is a faith of peace and well-being.

The Turkish-Islamic Union Will Also Bring Economic Regeneration with It

Economic development will also accelerate in a climate of unity, union and brotherhood. There are various problems in the Turkish-Islamic world today, starting with border problems. These problems cause economic instability. For example, there needs to be a secure route for underground resources to be extracted, transported and exported to the world. The fact is that the atmosphere of disorder and political instability in the region prevents the Turkish-Islamic world from making proper use of its rich resources.

A similar situation applies regarding water resources. Water is the most important subject of disagreement in the Middle East. But these problems can be completely eliminated by means of the members of the Turkish-Islamic world supporting one another and by negotiation.

Economic cooperation is important in terms of stability and of development. Economic union and strength will emerge once the poverty, lack of education, inequalities in income distribution and other economic and social problems afflicting Muslim countries in particular are resolved.

There are very different economies and natural conditions in the Turkish-Islamic world. Some countries' economies are based on underground reserved (as with oil-rich countries), while others are dependant on agriculture (because their geographical characteristics are better suited to it). This difference also applies partially to the nature of societies. In some countries the majority of people live in rural areas, while an urban culture predominates in others. Only if one country supports another so as to make goods its deficiencies, when they meet one another's needs and everyone helps everyone else in matters on which they possess expertise can these differences be converted into a major source of wealth. That can be brought about with the Turkish-Islamic Union.

Joint investments and initiatives will be a major step in this direction. Thanks to joint initiatives, countries will be able to benefit from one another's experience and the investment fields opened up will be a source of revenue for their economies. As we have already said, it is a requirement of Islamic moral values for the members of the Turkish-Islamic world to support one another. Helping the needy and solidarity are two important characteristics of Muslims. Social solidarity is needed between two societies. In this way, employment opportunities will rise and income levels in both will start to rise.

Through joint initiatives that will unite the means and power of the Turkish-Islamic world, many products of advanced technology will be able to be manufactured in Muslim countries, too. Thanks to the common market to be set up, products manufactured in one country will easily be able to be marketed in another, without becoming caught up in frontier formalities such as customs or quotas. Trade zones will expand, all member countries will enjoy an increased market share, exports will grow and this will accelerate countries' industrialization processes, and this development in the economy will also be reflected in technology. The Turkish=Islamic world will thus be able to act as a common power and become an important component of the global economy. And economic development and a climate of well-being in the Turkish-Islamic world will of course have a positive impact on the region and the world. (


It is a requirement of the moral values revealed by Allah in the Qur'an that Muslims should act in a spirit of union and unity. Muslims must sincerely strive to be united in consideration of that fact.

There are various tensions and disagreements in the Turkish-Islamic world today, conflicts persist and unease and tension are on the rise. The fact that the requisite unity and union are absent from the Turkish-Islamic world both prepares the groundwork for various problems and also makes it more difficult for existing difficulties to be brought to a permanent conclusion. In order for this to come to an end and for Muslim and all other lands to attain peace and security, it is essential for a solid union to be established in the Turkish-Islamic world. Muslims must act in the knowledge that they are brothers, as Allah reveals in the Qur'an, and must be one in love, respect and honesty, like the members of a family. Our Almighty Lord's commandment in the Qur'an, expressed in the words "Those who do not believe are the friends and protectors of one another. If you do not act in this way there will be turmoil in the land and great corruption" (Surat al-Anfal, 73) is for Muslims to be one another's guardians, in other words protectors and helpers, and to act in unison. Almighty Allah reveals that unless this happens, there will be terrible confusion and unrest in the world. For that reason, Muslims must live in accordance with the spirit of brotherhood and friendship revealed in the Qur'an, and achieve a state of solidarity and union if the sufferings in the world are to be brought to a complete end. The current conditions clearly show that urgent need for Muslims to unite. Either the Turkish-Islamic world will unite, a climate of peace and well-being will emerge, security and peace will be built and happy times ensue, or else the current negativeness and sufferings will continue.

The Answer to the Current Problems Is to Act in Unity and Solidarity

The times when Islamic civilization illuminated the whole world and represented a role model for everyone in terms of science, art, architecture and commerce were those times when Muslims acted in unity and solidarity. Many leading Islamic scholars in the 10th and 11th centuries and after, such as Ibn Haytam, Al Jabr, Awijanna and many others earned great admiration in the field of science, while great artists such as Mimar Sinan in Ottoman times earned the admiration of the whole world in art and architecture. At the root of the way that Muslims brought tolerance, reason, science, art, beuty, cleanliness and well-being everywhere they went during those centuries and that the Islamic world was the most modern and contemporary civilization lay the climate of peace and security provided by the spirit of unity. The Turkish-Islamic world now needs to reacquire that power, radiance and abundance.

But for all kinds of acitivity in that direction, there needs to be a spirit of brotherhood among all Muslims and the unity of the Turkish-Islamic world has to be established. If a reconciliatory and peace-loving culture prevails among Muslims, one that treats differences with tolerance, uses its strength and energy for Islam and the benefit of Muslims and humanity alone, and supports pluralism, that the Islamic world can build one of the greatest civilizations of the 21st century. Otherwise it will be very, very difficult for fragmented, divided Muslims to have the strength even to defend their own values. The fact is that it is a requirement of the moral values of the Qur'an that Muslims defend their values together when confronted by a negative attitude in terms of human rights or freedom of belief, life or ideas. It is clear that an intellectual campaign waged in union and unity will be highly effective and swiftly achieve the desired result.

Muslims Must Look to Common Values, Not Differences

The fact that there was Islamic Union in the past is one of the main pieces of evidence that it can be re-established again today. It is most important for Muslims to be optimistic on this subject, to encourage such a union as far as their means permit, and to strive for the unity and brotherhood of the Islamic world. Muslims must be instrumental in their Muslim brothers enhancing their enthusiasm and fervor and in their desiring friendship and brotherhood. In particular, opinion formers, intellectuals and other eminent figures must act as role models in this through their behavior, speech and writings.

It's important that the desire felt for union and togetherness be supported by concrete measures. All believers must regard one another as brothers in the Hereafter and see one another's positive sides rather than their errors. Differences are no reason for division or keeping one's distance, and should be regarded as color, cultural diversity and beauty. People should feel love, compassion, understanding and affection for other people, love their brothers, and use a praise-filled and respectful language regarding them. Muslims must always bear in mind the verse in which our Lord says that believers are one another's brothers:

The believers are brothers, so make peace between your brothers and have fear [and respect] of Allah so that hopefully you will gain mercy. (Surat al-Hujurat, 10)

All Muslims believe in the same One and Almighty Allah, strive for His approval, mercy and Paradise alone, sincerely obey the Prophet Muhammad (saas), who was sent as a blessing to the world, and abide by the same Qur'an. Their common aim is for all people to live by the moral values of the Qur'an.

What could be easier than for Muslims, who all share the same aims, to love one another and act as one? All we need do is show the same moral virtues of the Islamic morality, such as love, compassion, altruism, understanding and forgiveness to our Muslim brothers from different schools as we do to the people around us. Let us not withhold the tolerance we must display toward people who are ignorant of Islamic moral values and thus are unable to live by them from our believing brothers who may hold different opinions. Let us embrace them with love and understanding, as we do everyone else.

Muslim Unity Must Be Built on Love and Sincerity

True love and sincerity that stem from love and fear of Allah are some of the greatest blessings bestowed on believers. This blessing must reflect the relationship and dialogue among believers. The union to be constructed by Muslims must be founded on sincerity and true love. We must not forget that one of the worst scourges to afflict people in the End Times is lovelessness, and the harshness, lack of understanding, coldness and ruthlessness that stem from it. Believers love one another because they know they love Allah and His messenger. They respect one another because they know they fear Allah and obey His messenger. The mere fact that they believe is sufficient reason for them to love and respect one another. An atmosphere of family warmth, vivacity, honesty and sincerity must therefore prevail where Muslims meet and consult one another. In the Qur'an, the mutual love and devotion of those Muslims who migrated with our Prophet (saas) and of those who welcomed them is described as a role model for all believers:

Those who were already settled in the abode, and in belief, before they came, love those who have emigrated to them and do not find in their hearts any need for what they have been given and prefer them to themselves even if they themselves are needy. It is the people who are safe-guarded from the avarice of their own selves who are successful. (Surat al-Hashr, 9)

Today, as well, Muslims must love one another with great sincerity, like the Companions of the Prophet (saas). At the heart of the Turkish-Islamic Union must be the love and compassion of our Prophet (saas), which are a role model to everyone, and the spirit of the Companions. It is this spirit that transmits Islamic moral values from Mecca and Medina to the whole world. Companions' mutual love, devotion, solidarity and spirit of union gave them strength and power, increased the productivity of all they did and made them successful in all they undertook. Today, when Muslims act with the same solidarity, altruism, loyalty and devotion, when they are bound to one another "like well-built walls," then insha'Allah they can overcome all difficulties with the strength and force our Lord will bestow on them. When it behaves with the love and sincerity enjoined in the Qur'an there is no problem the Islamic world cannot solve.

It must not be forgotten that one of the obstacles to Muslims being united is pride, one of satan's snares, and that this vice must be avoided. Almighty Allah reveals in a verse that He does not like the proud, "... Allah does not love any vain or boastful man" (Surat al-Hadid, 23). Pride is an evil that can lead to tensions among believers and thus distance them from one another, reduce their love and prevent them feeling compassion and affection. It ill becomes sincere Muslims to waste time on personal calculations and petty worldly interests when the Muslim world is facing such troubles and difficulties. Every Muslim must seek refuge in Allah from such an error, do whatever auspicious things pride wishes to prevent and thus not permit it to constitute an obstacle to unity and togetherness among believers.

The Whole World Is Waiting for Turkey to Unite Muslims Together

The last Turkish-Islamic Union was the great and glorious Ottoman Empire. The Turkish-Islamic Union under the Ottoman rule that was shaped by Qur'anic moral values is an excellent example of how Muslims live together in peace, comfort and security when they abide by the spirit of unity and union. Many Western thinkers and statesmen have identified a vacuum that has persisted for a century in the former Ottoman lands in particular and agree that the only possible solution is the resurrection of the Ottoman model, in other words, a Turkish-Islamic Union based on tolerance and justice.

With its historic legacy, the Ottoman Empire, Turkey served as spiritual leader of the Muslim world for hundreds of years. For that reason, it still attracts the love and interest of all the Muslims in the region. In addition, with its experience, developed foreign relations, qualified work force and intellectuals, Turkey would appear ideally suited to lead the way to the unification of the Turkish-Islamic world. Many sections are united in pointing to Turkey as a candidate for this noble undertaking.

Turkey has a historic obligation to lead the way to the unification of the Turkish-Islamic world. However, in order for that responsibility to be discharged properly a model needs to be set up that will act as a model for the whole Islamic world. In other words, the desire for union must not be limited to words alone. It is therefore of great importance for opinion shapers, intellectuals and the leaders of non-governmental organizations in Turkey to come together and show how this union can be put into practice.


The concept of union and unity in question is not based on one culture or group being superior to another, but on a spirit of solidarity, tolerance, love and friendship in which they are all equal.

By the leave and blessing of Allah, the unification of the Turkish-Islamic world will bring the world the peace and security for which it longs. That union will be built on love, brotherhood, affection, tolerance and solidarity. It will aim to bring economic well-being, a democratic life style and justice to the region. It will seek to elevate spiritual values and to raise art, technology and science to the highest levels.

The Turkish-Islamic Union will also enjoy warm relations with the West. Since the union will be founded on the basis of love and justice, the parties' rights will be guaranteed and their respective interests will be protected.

In this way, the levels of well-being of all the members of the union and all the countries of the world will rise.

The failure to reconcile the different views, interpretations and models that prevail in the Turkish-Islamic world represents an obstacle to Muslims acting together. The union's call to unity will not be based on ethnic origins, economic conditions or geographical location. All kinds of dispute stemming from racial, linguistic or cultural features will be eliminated under the roof of brotherhood of this union. The conception of unity of this union's will not be based on any community, culture or group being superior to any other, but will be based on a spirit of solidarity based on tolerance, love and friendship that regards them all as equal.

The Turkish-Islamic Union Must Be a Solution Producer

The Turkish-Islamic Union will have to be sufficiently flexible in order to adapt to changing political circumstances and to be sufficiently forward-looking in order to develop requisite strategies. Rather than being an organization that settles for criticizing developments or expressing its own views, it clearly needs to be an active center capable of using its own initiative. This center must assume a permanent monitoring and coordination function and its activities must embrace the interests of all member countries. This union must consider all the demands of the Turkish-Islamic world by evaluating all developments in an objective manner. The Turkish-Islamic Union will resolve disputes that may arise between member countries, do away with conflicts of interest and serve as a protective mechanism in relations between Muslims and other societies. It will also enhance the cultural, economic and political efficiency of the Turkish-Islamic world.

The Views of the Great Turkish Leader Ataturk Contains an Important Message

Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, who made the Turkish Republic the most stable democracy among Muslim countries with the modern conception of the state he built, produced significant analyses of the kind of structure within which the Turkish-Islamic world could ensure unity and union. The accuracy of Ataturk's analyses, who said that one of the main elements of a state was the right to exist within its own borders, were gradually corroborated over the passage of time.

During the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, some of the peoples living in its territories were led astray and, instead of living up alongside the Empire they collaborated with foreign powers. Those who selected that course, out of hopes of various forms of self-interest, fell under the rule of the countries they collaborated with and were duly colonized. Some of these peoples sent representatives to Mustafa Kemal during the early years of the Republic, complaining of the failure of their leaders who had caused them to be colonized and even expressing the request to amalgamate with the Republic of Turkey. Ataturk's response to these proposals represents an important answer to the question of the shape of the foundations of the Turkish-Islamic Union:

"We can only be delighted at the whole Islamic world being united and allied as much materially as spiritually. To that end, in the same way that we are independent within our own borders, so the Syrians and Iraqis must be able to emerge as an independent power based on national sovereignty." (Mustafa Kemal, 24 April 1920, 4th (secret) session; mihenkokulu.htm)

The priority identified by Ataturk is for these countries to attain independence. Aware of the importance of the Turkish-Islamic Union, Ataturk noted that in order for the union to have the desired influence, member countries needed to be independent within their own borders and to be states based on national will and capable of standing on their own two feet. It is therefore of the greatest importance today for the members of this union to be established to maintain their national integrity and independence.


All the anti-religious systems in the world are now on the point of collapse, and people have begun returning to Allah and religious moral values. Moreover, Islam has become the most important topic on the world agenda, and mankind's attention is now fixed on the true religion. The technological means of the period we are living in have made it easier for Muslims to collaborate with one another and also permit mass communications explaining the beauty of Islamic moral values.

However, there is still poverty and ignorance in one part of the Islamic world. Some people who wish to take advantage of this by perpetrating un-Islamic actions supposedly in the name of Islam are giving the world a poor impression of Muslims. Certain circles opposed to Islamic moral values are taking advantage of this situation facing Muslims in order to inflict all kinds of oppression on them, and are planning to step up that persecution.

The solution lies in the establishment of the Turkish-Islamic Union that will unite all Muslims and show them the true path. Every Muslim has a duty to strive for the foundation of the Turkish-Islamic Union:

All Muslim governments must prepare for the Turkish-Islamic Union. They must improve relations with other Muslim countries and engage in cultural activities so that true Islamic moral values can be better installed in their own countries.

All Muslim non-governmental organizations, other organizations, charities, members of the media and opinion formers must strive to ensure that divisions between Muslims are eliminated and that unity and union are established.

All individual Muslims must strive for the unity of the world's Muslims, and must encourage Muslims in that direction in the mosques they attend, in their schools and places of work, on the internet platforms they visit and in the charities or organizations to which they belong.

All Muslims pray for the rejuvenation of that great Islamic civilization that will illuminate the world, delight both Muslims and non-Muslims and bring the world peace and justice. By Allah's leave, the foundation of the Turkish-Islamic Union will be instrumental in all these joys coming about.

Muslims who wish to undertake to serve in this sacred task;

Come, let us bring Muslims together. Let us bring together those Muslims who do not pray in one another's mosques, nor greet one another, nor read one another's books, and who are hostile to their brothers over the most minor of differences. Such artificial divisions must be eradicated. Mosques, the houses of Allah, must belong to all Muslims, not just this or that group or sect. Let all Muslims greet and talk to one another. Let them show one another tolerance and understanding. Let group or individual disagreements come to an end. And let all Muslims strive together, in humility and understanding, to draw closer to Allah and serve His religion the more.

And let them never forget this commandment of Allah's:

Hold fast to the rope of Allah all together, and do not separate. Remember Allah's blessing to you when you were enemies and He joined your hearts together so that you became brothers by His blessing. You were on the very brink of a pit of the Fire and He rescued you from it. In this way Allah makes His Signs clear to you, so that hopefully you will be guided. (Surah Al'Imran, 103)



An interview with Mr. Adnan Oktar by Pine River, UA

PINE RIVER: Mr. Oktar, thank you for consenting to this interview. You are proposing the establishment of an Islamic Union comprised of member nations - not only from the Middle East but also inclusive of Muslim countries in Asia and Europe - and structured along the lines of the EU. As there is already an Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) what could the IU accomplish that the OIC cannot?

ADNAN OKTAR: Muslims have a Qur'anic obligation to act as one, as brothers. The Turkish-Islamic Union is essential for that. Muslim, Turkic states must come together under the umbrella of this union of hearts. But every state will nevertheless remain a separate national state. Every state will act independently regarding its internal affairs; but they will also act in unison under the roof of the Turkish-Islamic Union. If such a union comes about, the current conflict and strife will come to an end. The union will be a great instrument of equilibrium over a wide expanse of territory. The greatest benefit of this will be the simultaneous end to terror. No such thing as terrorism will be left remaining. The second benefit will be enormous economic prosperity. Most important of all, however, there will be a great spiritual peace and well-being. All sections of society will be at peace. Believers will live in peace, and also unbelievers.

The Turkish-Islamic Union that I am talking about is a union of hearts, of love and a shared reason. Great love is essential in order to set up such a vibrant union, such a climate of brotherhood. Intense enthusiasm is essential. These things cannot be produced by red tape, but by fervor and enthusiasm. In other words, you need love to extend a helping hand to another country, to regard it as a brother and seek a solution to its problems, to take a common decision and put an immediate end to anarchy when terror raises its head anywhere.

PINE RIVER: In your article titled "A Call To An 'Islamic Union'" you wrote:

Muslims should collectively work to establish a system that brings societies different from one another into relationships of mutual tolerance and peace... In the aftermath of the Sept 11 attacks, however, a dire problem emerged. Certain circles that claim to speak on behalf of Islam, but clearly lack the understanding of the essence of it, work to wreak suffering on humanity rather than striving for its benefit. In attacking and killing innocent people, they committed the vilest sin forbidden by Islam - in other words, they brought chaos to the world.

How would your proposed Islamic Union, structured along the lines of the EU, deal with the problem of terrorism?

ADNAN OKTAR: The most effective struggle that can be waged against terror is an intellectual one, a struggle of ideas. It is impossible to defeat mosquitoes until the swamp they breed in has been dried up, in other words, until the ideologies representing the foundations of terror have been eliminated. Darwinism lies at the heart of terrorism. You cannot expect someone who has been indoctrinated to regard human beings as a kind of animal, to believe that progress is possible only through conflict, and to think one has to be strong to survive, to also be loving and compassionate. Such a person's ruthlessness and willingness to kill, without batting an eyelid, anyone who threatens his own interests, and slaughter others for the sake of the ideology he espouses is the natural consequence of Darwinist indoctrination. Those who claim to resort to terror and violence in the name of Islam are at heart Darwinists. The Qur'an makes it crystal clear that there is no room for violence in Islam. Allah even says "It will be better for you to forgive," even in reference to someone who has committed murder. Which course of action will a Muslim choose? The more auspicious path, of course. He will choose to forgive. Forgiveness is inherent in Islam. And love. And compassion. But there is no room for violence. Islam means peace. Allah commands peace.

In order to combat terror, people need to be told of the true and dangerous indoctrination of Darwinism. They need to be shown that it is of no scientific worth. Society can quickly be educated by way of such cultural activities as books, articles, public meetings, conferences and video shows. Once people come to see the true face of Darwinism, the foundations of atheism, lovelessness, heartlessness, ruthlessness, cruelty and violence will collapse. Once a powerful union has been established in the Turkish-Islamic world, these activities will be much easier, and the strength of the Turkish-Islamic Union will act as a deterrent to those who support violence and wish to create chaos and anarchy.

PINE RIVER: In your writings you emphasize Muslim unity as necessary to a peaceful world:

"The Islamic Union must work to bring peace to all people, not just Muslims, and tolerant and peaceful in its decisions and practices. The core of Islam is the good morality revealed in the Qur'an, which requires Muslims to be friendly, gentle, compassionate, tolerant, just, understanding, patient and devoted. Islam invites people to a peaceful world."

Saparmyrat Turkmenbashy, the late president of Turkmenistan, penned a similar message in Ruhnama:

"The Turkmen sees other nations as his own brothers, his own friends. Racism cannot find a place among Turkmens. Turkmens respect the languages, the religions and the traditions of other nations."

That said, how would the IU unify the Muslim nations and dispel the notion of tribalism and ethnicity?

ADNAN OKTAR: The love, understanding, moderation, humility and rationality set out in the Qur'an will represent the essence of the Turkish-Islamic Union. Allah has revealed in the Qur'an that superiority lies in piety alone. It is not material advantages, the color of a person's skin, his belief or ancestry that makes one person superior to another. Only spiritual values can make one superior to another. In other words, someone who is humble, who has a greater fear of Allah, who loves Allah more and is more keen to help others, more altruistic, more patient and gentler therefore applies the moral values of the Qur'an in a finer manner. Such manners are more valuable both in other people's eyes and in the sight of Allah, inshaAllah. But that superiority does not mean oppressing or exploiting others. In speaking of the founding of a Turkish-Islamic Union under the leadership of the Turkish nation, when I say that the Turkish nation will assume the role of leader, I am not referring to any leadership based on force or compulsion. On the contrary, accepting such a leadership means putting up with troubles and difficulty. It means serving all the societies belonging to the union, and all mankind itself. We are all the children of the Prophet Adam (peace be upon him). The Islamic world beats with a single heart. The whole Turkic world beats with a single heart. We are no different from each other. But I think that the ideal thing is for the Turks to lead the way in requesting such service. That is how it has always been. Our nation dedicated itself to that task during Ottoman times and served as leader. That is why I consider that the Turkish nation must again ask to assume that burden.

PINE RIVER: In your article "The Benefits of Unity for Muslims" you wrote:

"The Islamic Union must resolve intra-Muslim disputes and conflicts, as well as overcome the wars, conflicts, and tensions between them and non-Muslim countries, by peaceful and reconciliatory means."

Would it be correct to assume that the IU's primary leverage in dealing with wayward member states and other nations would be economic?

ADNAN OKTAR: The Turkish-Islamic Union will be the instrument of a much greater political, cultural and economic strength. This union will bring with it very positive developments involving all aspects of life. It will be a union that defends and protects both member nations and other countries as well, extends the hand of friendship to those in want, entirely eradicates anarchy and chaos, ensures a rise in wealth and abundance and attaches great importance to justice, democracy and love. The Turkish-Islamic world, extending from the Caucasus to Tanzania and from Morocco to Fiji, will once again, by Allah's leave, rise when it acts as one and in unison. The USA, Russia, China, Israel and all the states of Europe will see that problems that have persisted for years are suddenly resolved with the establishment of the Turkish-Islamic Union. And that will benefit everyone. All the concerns felt regarding security and economic and cultural values by those states remaining outside the Turkish-Islamic world will be eliminated when such a union is set up. The war against terror will come to an end, underground resources and raw materials will be used in the best way so as to benefit the whole of mankind, the economy will achieve stability, the slightest possibility of crisis will be eradicated, and funds set aside for military expenditure will instead be spent on providing people with a better quality and more secure life. There will be no need for America to send its troops thousands of miles away, Israel will no longer need to live behind walls, the countries of the EU will face no economic obstacles, Russia will have no security concerns and China will suffer no shortages of raw materials.

With its $400 billion military budget, the United States of America heads the armament list. Russia follows the USA with $60 billion, and China follows Russia with $42 billion. The Turkish-Islamic Union will give rise to a climate of global peace and security by eradicating all conflict and tensions regarding the Islamic world, and will also lead to a reduction in military spending, not just in Muslim countries, but on the part of a great many countries of the world. Investment in arms technology and money spent on weapons development will thus be diverted to such spheres as education, medicine, science and culture. The Turkish-Islamic Union will cause regeneration throughout the Muslim world. Thanks to the Islamic common market to be set up, products from one country will be easily marketed in another, without becoming caught up in quotas or national frontiers. Trade zones will grow, all Muslim countries will enjoy an increase in market share, exports will rise, leading to an acceleration of industrialization in Muslim countries, and economic development will lead to technological advances. A Turkic-Islamic world with a powerful economy will be a major cause of prosperity for the Western world and other societies. These societies will find a power with which they can co-operate and engage in mutual trade with no feelings of concern.

PINE RIVER: Let's look at a specific situation that exists today. There have been recent attacks perpetrated in the Chinese province of Xinjiang. Also known as East Turkestan, Xinjiang is a predominantly Muslim region. There are three questions I want to ask:

(1) What hope would the creation of an Islamic Union give to the people of Xinjiang?

(2) What are some options the IU might consider with regard to resolving the Xinjiang issue with China?

(3) What solution do you see to resolving issues related to Muslim-dominated regions located within non-Muslim countries in general?

ADNAN OKTAR: During communist times, the Turkic states have remained cleaner and more virtuous, without suffering any degeneration. I mean, the results have worked in the opposite direction. Go to East Turkestan and you will see highly virtuous people. There are very virtuous, devout Muslims there. That is a blessing of Allah. The whole world is protesting against the Chinese policy of oppression in East Turkestan. China is behaving very harshly in Tibet, as well as in East Turkestan. That policy of oppression must be eliminated at once. But the real issue here is the eradication of Darwinism in China, and we are engaging in intellectual activities to that end in China too. It is essential that the innocent people of East Turkestan be freed from this repression forthwith.

No-one of good conscience can accept this Chinese oppression. It should leave the people of East Turkestan to live by their own means, in freedom in a state of their own. If China wishes to trade, by all means let it do so. But if it wants to engage in exploitation, that is totally unacceptable. What does China want from East Turkestan, and what will it gain by keeping it captive? How can keeping it captive make China happy? What joy can that bring it? Is that a triumph? It should completely withdraw from East Turkestan. Let the people there go to mosques and factories in freedom. Let them converse together and share the joy of a festival. China must now perform a good deed there. The time has come. The whole world will love China when it says: "This country is one deserving of independence. There was no need for us to interfere in it. There was no point and no logic to it. This is no longer tolerable in the 21st century. We are withdrawing our troops. We are lifting our political pressure. We declare it to be a free state." Everyone will respect it. Just see how China then opens up to the rest of the world. It must leave East Turkestan to become a secular democracy and take its place in the world as an independent state. China will become very much richer. It must not think that it has anything to lose. It will gain prestige, rather than losing it. This is not something to be made a matter of pride. If it withdraws from East Turkestan, agreements regarding it can be made. They can be given more oil and electricity. There is no question of them being left with any shortages. Islamic countries will want to sell electricity, oil and energy. That would be to their advantage. If necessary, it can be sold to them on the cheap, as long as they abandon this oppression and injustice. They can demand petrol, or electricity or natural gas, but they cannot oppress and imprison millions of people for the sake of those. This can be brought about through bilateral agreements. All the Turkic states can come together and come to an agreement with China on the subject. They can suggest a 50-year agreement, for example. And oil will really be sold. But this will all be through the Turkish-Islamic Union. We need to speed up the Turkish-Islamic Union. The union will also be of benefit to China. China needs to be told this in a pleasant manner. It may imagine that this union will be to its disadvantage. But on the contrary, it will be to its benefit. It will liberate China in all respects. It will free it in military terms and free it from attack. It will free it economically. It will allow it to modernize. China must support the Turkish-Islamic Union in order to liberate its own citizens.

PINE RIVER: In what country would the headquarters of the Islamic Union be located? Why was this country selected?

ADNAN OKTAR: In the hadiths, our Prophet (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) reveals that the blessed Mahdi will emerge from Istanbul. "The Hour will not be established until a man from the people of my house [the Mahdi] takes possession [of the world]. He will conquer Istanbul," the Prophet (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) said. This will be a spiritual conquest, inshaAllah. Great Islamic scholars say that Istanbul will be the center of the Islamic world during the End Times. The current political developments show that Turkey has assumed an important and active role. Turkey is leading the way to peace and stability in the Caucasus, in the Middle East, and even in Africa. Things are proceeding very well, inshaAllah. A most enlightened age will dawn, under Turkish leadership, within the next 10 to 15 years. The current strife and chaos will come to an end. We will see an age of plenty and abundance, inshaAllah, similar to the age of the Prophet Solomon (peace be upon him). The salvation of the world is close at hand, by His leave.


ASIA RFA: We know you from your works. We know you from the Science Research Foundation. Could you first give us some brief details about the Science Research Foundation? What fields does it work in? When was it founded? Just in brief for our listeners.

ADNAN OKTAR: Yes, the Science Research Foundation is a pro-Ataturk, nationalist, religious, spiritual and heroic community that espouses truth and beauty, Turkey's becoming a Great Turkey, the Turkish-Islamic Union and the salvation of all Muslims, and captive states and nations in the territories of that Turkish-Islamic Union geography.

ASIA RFA: When you say Turkish-Islamic Union, where exactly do you mean?

ADNAN OKTAR: Everywhere from The Adriatic to China. Including the Caucasus and Turkistan. Including East Turkestan, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt, Pakistan, Iran, all of these included

ASIA RFA: Where do you place Christian and Buddhist Turks within that?

ADNAN OKTAR: They will also live at ease within that union. They rights will be protected in the finest manner. It will even ensure that atheists enjoy the necessary respect, concern and services.

ASIA RFA: Yes, Mr. Harun. Now, you know about East Turkestan, of course. Enver Pasha died in Tajikistan, in what is now Turkistan territory. Many people in Turkey today say that Enver Pasha was a dreamer. But they might not be saying that if Turkistan, the pan-Turanian Union, had become a reality at that time. What we have today, of course, is the work of Nursultan Nazarbayev, which has been around for some time. There is talk of the establishment of a Turkistan [pan-Turkish] Union. What do you think of that?

ADNAN OKTAR: There is only one union. That is the Turkish-Islamic Union. It rests on the most perfect, most splendid, powerful and credible foundations. This is a just union acceptable to and including everyone. It will defend Armenians within the Turkish-Islamic Union. And Israelis and Jews. And Buddhists. And atheists. It will protect and embrace them all. But if one only wants this kind of Turk or that kind of Turk, then that is corruption. There can be no such thing. There are no different kinds of Turk. Turks are Turks. Wherever they may be in the world, they are brothers. There can be no diversity within Islam. They may be Sunnis, or Shiites, as in Azerbaijan. Or they may be Wahabbites. Or Alawites. But they are all our brothers. None of the separatist definitions can be accepted. We shall unite them all together, InshaAllah.

ASIA RFA: When we speak of Turkistan, the Turkic Republics that have emerged from Russia after a century. In the old times when you were speaking of a Turkish-Islamic geography, it was places like Bukhara and Samarkand that have been the centres of Islamic civilisation, but these are now a society that have been exposed to communist materialism, Darwinist education, for 100 years. But now Islam is there. What kind of infrastructure does the Turkish-Islamic Union have there? What is your view of the conception of Islam there? In other words, how feasible is the union?

ADNAN OKTAR: The Turkic states were purer, more honest and better during the Communist period, as they had not yet been corrupted. The effect has been a completely opposite one. Go to East Turkestan, for instance, and you will see delightful people there. There are highly virtuous, pure Muslims there. Women or young people, they all possess immaculate Islamic moral virtues. Muslims have degenerated in many places, but not there. When we go to Turkistan, for example, we are amazed at the immaculate, well brought up people we meet there. Communism has had the exact opposite effect. And that is a blessing from Allah. They have remained quite spotless. They have been insulated. Nobody has been able to damage them. The union will be a very pure one, and it looks as if can easily come about within 10 or 15 years. InshaAllah, with Allah's leave we are beginning with Azerbaijan, we will just be starting out from there.

ASIA RFA: This is very important, when we speak of soft power in the world today, you can spread your impact across the world through education and writing. You have many works under the name of Harun Yahya on behalf of the Science Research Foundation. Turkish-language, Uyghur Turkish-language CDs have travelled as far as East Turkestan. We have worked over the radio. Could you tell us in brief about these activities? How many works have you produced to date? What languages have they been translated into? What kind of response do they attract?

ADNAN OKTAR: To date they number 260, but it is the Atlas of Creation that has most rocked the world. It has demolished Darwinism all across the Europe. It has literally had the impact of an atomic bomb, as they themselves put it; again in their own words, France has suffered the greatest cultural defeat in its history. And this, again in their own words, is still continuing. There is a glorious chain effect going on. You can see the articles written about this, from our websites. My books have currently been translated into more than 60 languages. Sixty different languages. My book Communist China's Policy of Oppression and East Turkestan is currently available in Turkish, English and German. Our bothers can download Communist China's Policy of Oppression and East Turkestan from the internet. It is available in Turkish, English and German. We also have a Turkish and English-language web site dedicated to East Turkestan - Our brothers can find all the information they want on it. As for documentaries, they can make us of The Bloody History of Communism, parts I, II and III. I have an article called East Turkestan; An Islamic Society in Communist Territory. I have another article titled: "The Chinese Cruelty in the East Turkestan Should Not be Ignored". I have another one called "The Truth of East Turkestan". But the real issue, of course, is the eradication of Darwinism in China, and we are working in China to that end.But since it is a communist country there is no real democracy there to speak of. In recent times, however, it has developed a great dependence on Europe and America. In other words, it has had to open up to the world because of its economic policy. It is now in a weak position regarding both Europe and America. If foreign countries were to sever foreign trade today, the Chinese economy would collapse. That means that America and Europe have it in their power to demolish China. That means that China is no longer as able to defy the world as it used to. This is a sign that the time for the liberation of East Turkestan has come. We must make the very best use of this period. Because East Turkestan is home to the world's most immaculate Muslims, and perhaps its best behaved people. It is somewhere inhabited by the most insulated, select people. I have witnessed this for myself. That is to say I know it for sure, I am certain. It is therefore crucially important that these people be freed from oppression, a matter of honour for the whole world. It is a debt of honour for the whole world. This great Turkic state has to be freed from Chinese hands. It is unacceptable for any conscious for China to interfere in it. It should let East Turkestan live freely as a state in its own right with its own means. If China wants to trade it can go and trade with it. There is no question of East Turkestan attacking China. So what does China want? What does it gain? If it wants to gain something, that can be commercial. So let East Turkestan and China trade together. Nobody will let it colonize it, however, and what other meaning can taking a country captive have? What does China want from East Turkestan and what does it stand to gain by making it a captive? What happiness can that bring it? What joy will that bring to its heart? What victory is that? It must withdraw from East Turkestan completely. Let the people who live there be free to go to mosques and factories. Let them talk freely and let it turn into a festival. China must now do a good deed there. The time has come. China must stand up and admit it has made a mistake saying: "This country is one that deserves independence. There was no need for us to intervene. There was no point and no logic in it. This is unacceptable in the 21st century. We are withdrawing our troops. And we are lifting our political pressure."The whole world will love China when it announces it is a free country. Everyone will respect it. China must commit this good deed.

ASIA RFA: You mention this in your book Communist China's Policy of Oppression and East Turkestan, since 1949 China has executed millions of Muslims among its own citizens, but when we look at the media what we see is the U.S. invasion of Iraq, Afghanistan and later Palestine. We see in the media how many people are being killed every day. But the most painful thing today is the thousands of people in East Turkestan executed and prisoned just for writing books or poems.Tens of thousands of people, but the world is silent. Why?

ADNAN OKTAR: Everyone who favours the idea of the Turkish-Islamic Union should make a huge outcry on this subject. We will be starting our own work in that regard in the next few days. We began with Azerbaijan.It is now the turn of East Turkestan. We shall be raising East Turkestan in the press, talking about people being killed for writing that China should let East Turkestan go, should let its people live in freedom, that it keeps killing; about people being killed just for writing an article, looking up to the sky or down on the ground. This oppression is something that not even someone totally devoid of conscience should be capable of. China is doing this and belittling itself before the world. It is disgracing itself. It is disgracing everything. It is disgracing its own state and nation, and must stop doing so. It must think about this and do these things from a conception of honesty, of rationality and of proper behaviour. It must withdraw from East Turkestan and leave it as a free country. Then you will see how the world opens up to China. Turkey will adopt a most excellent view of it.Workers from Turkey will go to work in China, and others from there will come here. It will adopt a totally different line. But there will always be anger in the nation's heart so long as this open wound continues to bleed. Many people, many businessmen for example, do not go to China to do business just because of that hatred. Who would willingly go to a country that kills so many people, that commits so many murders? Everywhere is full of human blood. You will have to wade through human blood to go anywhere there today. No Muslim can wade through human blood. They must clean that blood up. They must put a stop to these killings and this oppression will be lifted. They should Let allow East Turkestan to be democratic. Laicism. Let it take its place in the world as an independent country. China will be enriched many times by that. It must not imagine it will lose out by it. It will gain prestige, not lose it. This is not something to be made a question of pride.

ASIA RFA: When we look at Turkestan geography, we see it is of great strategic importance for China. After the USA, China is one of the world's largest energy consumers. It needs energy, oil, in order to develop. And that comes from Central Asia. There is an oil pipeline from Kazakhstan to Shanghai. There is natural gas from East Turkestan. China has occupied the region four times in the past, and has four times been the superpower in the region. China drew nourishment from there. That is why it is very important for China and China is reluctant to leave it. In contrast, however, it has adopted a relaxed policy towards West Turkestan. So what should the Turkic world, the Islamic world, do? The Uyghurs are rather unhappy with the Turkic world just at the moment, because China really clamped down on them after September, 11th, using the international war against terror as a pretext. Fasting is currently banned and there is no fundamental freedom of religion. That has been determined in Amnesty International reports. What is your view?

ADNAN OKTAR: China has to abandon this Cold War mentality. If it withdraws from East Turkestan it can enter into good agreements with it. It can be given even more petrol, even more electricity. Nothing will put them in a difficult position. The sale of electricity, oil and energy to them is something that Islamic countries already want. That will be to their advantage. They can be sold cheap if necessary. Just so they leave these people on their own. China may want oil, or electricity or natural gas, but there is no excuse for oppressing millions of people and keep them captive. This can be by way of bilateral agreements. It can make an agreement with Turkey, for example. China can sign agreements with states. All the Turkic states can combine together to reach an agreement with China on the subject. We will satisfy all your needs regarding natural gas, electricity or oil. But you must lift your hands from these immaculate people. That is the question; a 50-year agreement could be reached, for instance. And petrol could really be sold. If only petrol was the thing China wants.

ASIA RFA: Yes, what is your view of Turkey's policy regarding East Turkestan? Turkey has many problems today. Parliament issued a notice in 1998. It is forbidden to fly the East Turkestan sky flag today. Our civil society organisations have a lot of problems here. But Turkey says; "This is damaging our trade relations. For that reason, we will not permit East Turkestan civil society organisations to engage in certain activities in here". But looking at our trade relations, we import $14 billion-worth of goods from China. We only sell them $1 billion. Poor quality Chinese goods are currently destroying Turkish industry. Chinese goods are a huge threat. What should Turkey's policy be? When we speak of the Turkish world, of course, we are speaking of Turkey as a deep-rooted state, the successor to the Ottoman Empire. But because of rifts in various policies, Turkey is today unable to attach sufficient importance to overseas. What do you think of Turkey's East Turkestan policy?

ADNAN OKTAR: The fact is that, willingly or otherwise, Turkey is preserving the Turkish-Islamic Union policy in its heart. In other words, that exists in its genes. Every Turk has a subconscious desire for the Turkish-Islamic Union to be founded. But Turkey lacks the strength to deal with China on its own. That is only possible with the Turkish-Islamic Union. The Turkish-Islamic Union needs to be sped up. It has to be really accelerated. We need to explain to China, very politely, that this Union will also benefit China. This needs to be made clear to the Chinese state in the most diplomatic terms possible. China may perhaps imagine that this union will be to its disadvantage. But it will benefit China, save it, in all regards. It will save it in military terms, and protect it from any external attack. It will also save it economically. The Chinese people are still struggling, and this will enable it to modernise. I see in the papers how the people are still living in tiny places resembling barns. They are desperately poor. Those people will live in much greater ease. China should support the Turkish-Islamic Union for the sake of its own people. This is not a colonialist or selfish union. It is a union of love and friendship, a union of solidarity and toleration, of moderation, built on a basis of laicity. In other words, it will be grounded in laicism, and this is most important. If it is laicist, peaceful and a pro-democratic system, there is no reason for China to be worried by it. This will also allow Israel to relax. It will mean the immediate end to all the conflict in the region. Because, as you know, Palestine is suffering; but Israel is suffering, too, and there is the ever-present possibility of a bomb dropping on their heads. Israel lives behind walls. They are literally prisoners. But they have made themselves prisoners. They have locked themselves behind walls. Let us tear those walls down. Let commercial vehicles roll up there. Let busses and lorries go there. Let ships go, by sea. Let things be made easier. This may be more through the work of civil society organisations if China is to be convinced, of course. But we will be putting in some considerable effort in that direction in the next few days. This is an idea that will free China from those unnecessary fears and enable it to abandon these classic policies of state. Because in classic state policy whatever you do there is somewhere of benefit to you and you go and invade it. You crush the inhabitants and live there yourself. But there is no need to suck blood in order to live. You can do it with love and friendship. It is vampire bats living on sucking blood, it doesn't suit China to live by sucking blood.

ASIA RFA: The Chinese have a fear of Turkish Islam. That is why the pressure on the Muslim Uyghur Turks has increased of late. I interviewed a teacher only last week. He was thrown out of his job just for reciting the Bismillah in school for the students while eating, on the grounds he was a religious fanatic. That happened only recently. These things are going on today, in the 21st century. We could cite hundreds of examples. When we speak of the Turkish-Islamic Union, will we alarm China still further so the oppression in East Turkestan will increase still further? There are many Chinese books that say that the pan-Turkism, pan-Islamism in East Turkestan has stemmed from Turkey ever since the time of Abdülaziz. They are still writing this today. How effective can this thesis be there when China is acting like this?

ADNAN OKTAR: There is pan-Turkism and pan-Islamism, but there is also the Turkish-Islamic Union. In pan-Turkism if someone so wishes he can interpret this as meaning the Turkish race is superior to the other races of the world and that the other races will be its slaves. People are naturally afraid of that. Or they think of it as an Islamic Union. People might try to turn that into a ruthless system in which very harsh rules apply. We have seen this in the dark times of history. We have seen it in past times. But neither is what I am referring to here. For one thing, we have the guarantee of laicism. The system will be entirely founded on laicism, and that is most important. A Buddhist will be a first-class human being, an atheist will be a first-class human being, a first-class citizen. Muslims will be first-class citizens. Christians will be first-class citizens. Jews will be first-class citizens. And it is laicism that will bring this about. There will be a joyful, loving atmosphere and security, and of course a powerful military presence, a military establishment, wherever there is terror. There will be no need for bloodshed. You will just tell people to give terror up. And they will. Nobody will persist in the face of deterrent force. Wherever there may be terror in the world the matter will come to an end when you call to the individual and tell him to stop, because the Turkish-Islamic Union will be a militarily unbelievable powerful one. Whoever it asks, there the matter will end. And conflict will therefore end. Injustice will end. Nobody can therefore object to it.
ASIA RFA: At that time what will happen to the Westernisation that has been going on in Turkey since the Tanzimat Period (the political reforms of 1839) and the project of joining the European Union?

ADNAN OKTAR: If Turkey joins the EU as the leader of the Turkish-Islamic Union, Europe will greatly rise in stature. It will be a hundred times greater. Europe will then become the greatest state in the world. But the Turkish-Islamic Union will also be the leading state over them all. It will fill the world with money, goods and plenty. Food and drink will fill the streets as if they were waste products. There will be such abundance that people will wonder what to do with it all. This huge waste, war and throwing bombs around, stems from this. Palestine, Israel earn a bit of money. And that money then goes in its entirety on military expenditure. What need is there for that? Come and take your place in the structure of the Turkish-Islamic Union. Your own state can be independent. Establish your unitary nation-state. Nobody can say anything against it. You can have your own military structure, but support this system and there will be no need for military spending. There will be no need to throw bombs around in the mountains. There will be no need to slaughter millions of people. In other words, the logic is one of giving up oppression and letting them live at ease.

ASIA RFA: In terms of the Turkic Republics, there are today seven Turkish flags waving at the United Nations. But when we look at Turkistan territory we see that most of the heads of state there are former communists. Islam today represents the greatest fear in Uzbekistan. Uzbekistan is one of the foremost countries in terms of fear of Islam. How can you tell people in this geography about this Turkish-Islamic Union so long as the administrations in these republics remain unchanged?

ADNAN OKTAR: The Islam on offer in Uzbekistan is something they could find alarming, I mean there is no democracy there. There are no human rights. There is oppression and killing and murder. And they do not give any right to survive to any other school or denomination or thought different from itself. Try being a Sunni. You are finished in that system. Or you may be a Jaferi, you are again finished in that system. You are bound to comply with their own system. But in the system I have outlined, all schools and faiths will be able to live absolutely freely. And in peace. If only Uzbekistan knew about this system, if only they were told about this system,they would say they are at that system's command. But the pan-Turkism and pan-Islamism proposed are completely different things. There is blood in them. And tears. Whereas in what I am talking about there is love, and peace and brotherhood. There is also the greatest possible freedom of thought and ideas. And everyone is respected for his ideas. What a good thing it will be if someone can openly say he has no religion. Why should he hide it instead of openly admitting it? Instead of being a hypocrite, he can say he has no religion and you then know it and everyone is at ease. If he is an atheist, then he is your atheist brother, friend. That is possible, Allah created him in that way. Allah says in the Qur'an that He will create unbelievers.
ASIA RFA: When I go on the internet and look at what young people in the Turkistan territories are writing I see that they perceive what we call laicism as atheism. We have not made this laicism completely clear. You speak of laicism, but could you tell us your views on the course it will follow?

ADNAN OKTAR: A system in which the state acts as judge in which believers and atheists can be as free as possible. Atheists do not pray or fast, and you respect that. They drink wine, and you respect that. Believers go and pray, however, and you respect that. They fast, and you respect that, too. They read the Qur'an, and you respect. That is laicism. They may sell the Qur'an and religious books, and you respect that. Or someone is an atheist and sells books about his own beliefs, and you respect that, too. That is laicism.

ASIA RFA: East Turkestan is the birthplace of people like Mahmut of Kashgar and Yusuf Has Hacip, and is inhabited by 20 million Muslims. But there are really inhumane practices going on there today. Your advice to the Muslims of East Turkestan is that there are a great many civil society organisations maintaining their activities by various means in order to tell people in the Western world, in the USA and parts of Japan, of the oppression going on there. China is constantly growing. As it grows it becomes unable to tolerate a number of sensitive issues. We have seen the case of Tibet. Tibet and East Turkestan represent two of China's greatest raw nerves.

ADNAN OKTAR: We shall liberate Tibet, too.

ASIA RFA: What is your advice to people in East Turkestan? What needs to be done?

ADNAN OKTAR: It is of course wrong to pressurise China. The thing to be done is culture. They need to raise top-quality young people. Religious, aware, anti-Darwinist, anti-Marxist, anti-communist people who think well, professors, scientists, doctors and jurists. There is an irresistible force, that of culture. They must attach great importance to culture. Let them enter my web sites and read my books, downloadable for free. Let them read them all and be properly informed. Let them look meaningfully into China's eyes. China will pull out. It cannot oppose it. No power can stand against culture. For example, you say the Sun has come up. Someone else doesn't believe you. You lift a corner of the curtain and drop it again, a matter of just a second. If there are a hundred people there they will all see the light and the matter will be over and done with. A Turkestan whose young people have taken to heart there is no Darwinism, who have become expert at telling people of this, who speak of it wherever they go, will already have become an impregnable bastion. So what if there are Chinese troops there? So what of anything else there might be? They would be like a bird perched on the shoulder of a lion.The whole issue is one of turning East Turkestan into a lion, one that will still keep walking even with four crows on its back. It will still go where it wants. We must strengthen the bonds of brotherhood, make no concessions on culture and further reinforce their pure states of mind. And continue down that path. China cannot withstand that. China is constantly developing. As it becomes a super state it needs Turkey, it needs Europe, it needs America. One day soon these countries need to come together and issue an ultimatum. China could not withstand a financial embargo any longer than two weeks. It is not strong enough, it would collapse. The world has that power. But the young people of East Turkestan should be extraordinarily cultured and morally virtuous and have an extraordinary national consciousness. These moral virtues must be strengthened still further and passed on to subsequent generations, and they must be on their guard against degeneration. They will struggle against degeneration. Let them be lions. They will still walk freely even with China on their shoulders like a crow. Nothing will happen.

ASIA RFA: What kind of work are you thinking of doing in respect of East Turkestan? You have written many books and brought CDs outand they can access these over the internet. We can announce that to them, but what are your subsequent plans for East Turkestanor the Turkistan region?

ADNAN OKTAR: We are thinking of starting with Azerbaijan. I have already said that. We shall make intensive efforts for the freedom of East Turkestan,the Turkic states and the Islamic world, but there is one very pressing matter. That is the unification of Azerbaijan with Turkey, because they are in the most appropriate position. That Lachin Corridor will be opened up. Turkey and Azerbaijan will unite, they will be two separate, unitary states with a laicist system. But passports will be abandoned. Visa formalities will be lifted. There will be freedom to settle anywhere people wish. Trade will be as free as possible and there will be a military pact. And there you have the first stage of the Turkish-Islamic Union. But after that East Turkestan is most pressing. Because it is a prisoner.The horror of imprisonment needs to be placed at the head of the agenda. Because the priority must be wherever repression is at its most fierce. And that is where the priority now lies. Its position is even more urgent than that of other Islamic countries. Because the captivity is even more savage. It is fiercer in East Turkestan, than it is in Palestine. The issue therefore needs to be raised and put before the public, by way of the press.Public pressure will wear China down. We will be working to force it into a corner in the days to come, in the major press, with full-scale announcements, in editorials and in television reports.

ASIA RFA: Did you come in for any protests or any pressure from the Republic of China following the publication of these books?

ADNAN OKTAR: No, but I can say that would not worry me in the least. I would actually like them to do it. I would like them to step it up a hundred thousand times. I wish they would make such protests.

ASIA RFA: I have seen the Chinese language editions of your books. Can you send them over there? Do you have readers in China?

ADNAN OKTAR: Thanks be to Allah, we have a great many brothers in China who have been influenced by my books and pray and fast and have converted to Islam. We have links to them, but I cannot give you any names or talk about those connections because that would mean giving them upcause problems between to themselves and the Chinese authorities, and that is out of the question. We get a great many of our books into China. They get in through suitable channels. My books are being disseminated inside China.

ASIA RFA: You have, of course, demolished Darwinism here, but you are now taking on the entire western world, America and the whole of China. Where do you draw that strength from?

ADNAN OKTAR: It comes from Allah, of course. If you place your trust in Allah, Allah the Praiseworthy...we cling tightly to Allah's unbreakable bond. I have placed my whole trust in Allah. Any Muslim then becomes enormously powerful.

ASIA RFA: You have the most excellent publications, and these have been sent to teachers in Turkey. A number of reports against you have appeared in the media. Our radio listeners ask about these books. Where do the financial resources needed for so much work come from?

ADNAN OKTAR: Allah tells us in the Qur'an that He will help those who follow in His path. I have no personal property or wealth. I have no car or house or land or anything in my name in this world. But, thanks be to Allah, He opens the doors of opportunity for my friends. And it is canonically lawful, coming from legitimate sources Allah gives them these means and they are highly successful. Various allegations have been trumped up on this subject. But official state bodies have examined them, and determined that everything was completely legal and above board. There was nothing illegal and no irregularities. They saw that all the sources of finance were legitimate. Allah helps those who travel on His path. The whole issue is one of genuine intent. Allah smoothes our way because our intent is genuine. That was the case with the Prophet Suleyman, who was bound to Allah with a sincere heart and intent. Allah made him the wealthiest and strongest man of his time. That was also the case with Dhu'lqarnayn. He also bound himself to Allah with a sincere heart. And Allah made him the super power of the time. And so shall we be in this age, inshaAllah.

ASIA RFA: How old were you when you first heard about the East Turkestan problem? And how?

ADNAN OKTAR: I have known about it since middle school. It has always angered me, stressed me. China has always been an issue in my mind. I always think of the children there. I think of the young girls. Of what must be happening to them in the hands of the godless Chinese. What is going on, one can't imagine. Just think of innocent children, young girls, imprisoned in a dark cave like that; I have always thought of it as a cave like that, with bats flying around, like in the horror films. I always thought of them as people made to live in a nightmare.That is why I have always lived with the urge to liberate them. I have had the idea of the Turkish-Islamic Union ever since childhood. It just continues growing.

ASIA RFA: Where are you from? Where were you born? Can one wonder how far back your ties with East Turkestan go?

ADNAN OKTAR: I am a sayyid descended from the blessed Hasan. I am descended from our Prophet (saas). My ancestors moved to the Caucasus at that time. There was oppression at that time, as you know. They moved to the Caucasus to save their lives. Then repression started there, as well, and sayyids began being slaughtered. They fled during the days of communist Russia and came to Turkey. My father's people settled in the Bala district of Ankara. They Ottoman Empire of the time gave them employment. MashaAllah, the Ottoman Empire had such a protective nature at that time, as you know. They later settled in Ankara proper. I was born and raised in Ankara. I attended middle and high school there. Then I came to the Fındıklı Academy of Fine Arts in Istanbul. I studied for a while in the Interior Design Department there. Then I transferred to the Philosophy Department. That was a school with a far greater communist presence. I transferred there in order to further my activities. In fact, the Fındıklı Academy of Fine Arts was also under the control of the Marxists. I engaged in intense activities there, as well. I began my book-writing activities at that time.

ASIA RFA: Do you attract any reactions from Marxists, from Marxists in Turkey? From the socialists, Marxists in Turkey now?

ADNAN OKTAR: At that time, yes, I did. Not any more, but they used to threaten me then as I was going to school. They said they were going to kill me and I should stop coming to school. And I said I would die if that was my destiny. I said that threats of that kind would not intimidate me. I therefore said I would continue coming and going, and went to the namaz before their very eyes. I went backwards and forwards to the mosque. They threatened to kill me several times.

ASIA RFA: Where have you been in the Turkistan territories?

ADNAN OKTAR: Nowhere yet. But when I do, I will come to a free land, inshaAllah. I hope to go to an autonomous East Turkestan, inshaAllah.

ASIA RFA: In conclusion, is there anything you would like to say to the people of East Turkestan. What message would you like to send them?

ADNAN OKTAR: They are very dear to me, my dear brothers, whose liberation I have been praying for ever since I was a child. And I am striving for them. InshaAllah, the next 10-15 years will be years of liberation. InshaAllah, all captive Turks and captive Muslims will be freed. Let them prepare themselves very well. Let them increase their awe of Allah. Let them raise their cultural levels and their faith. Let them increase their love and fear of Allah. Let them prepare themselves as anti-Darwinists. Let them learn al the frauds and hoaxes of Darwinists. Let them visit my web sites and look at them. Let them intensify their love for one another. They must be on their guard against degeneration. They must strongly defend their national culture. And let them not get involved in anything else. InshaAllah, their liberation is close at hand.

ASIA RFA: Thank you for giving up your valuable time and having this discussion with us.

ADNAN OKTAR: Thank you.


ADNAN OKTAR: The suffering we are undergoing in the End Times, the sufferings of Muslims, stem from their being unaware of the End Times and of what they need to do. Our Prophet (saas) described the cure for this disease. There is a disease and there is medicine, but Muslims are not taking that medicine. I am telling Muslims about that medicine. They are reluctant to take it. But if they refuse to take it the disease will go on and they will continue suffering. Has not enough Muslim blood been shed? Is the blood of Muslims that has been spilled in Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine not enough? Muslims must now unite. Let us build the Turkish-Islamic Union. The Turkic states are in a captive position. For example, the Chinese are perpetrating terrible repression against our brothers in East Turkestan. They are our Muslim, devout, pure and immaculate Turkish brothers. They are innocent people. Young girls and children are in a dreadful state there, but nobody is aware of it. Does anybody know what is going on in East Turkestan?


ADNAN OKTAR: They do not know. A whole country...

EKİN TV: Nobody even knows about East Turkestan.

ADNAN OKTAR: Of course. And what a terrifying thing that is. Does anyone know about the secret slaughter, the people who have disappeared, the victims of unsolved killings, the people taken from their homes in the middle of the night and never seen again?


ADNAN OKTAR: Look. The answer to all these things is the Turkish-Islamic Union. It is a human debt, even to people with no religion. It is an obligation for a Muslim, and a human debt for people with no religion if he has humanity inside.



ADNAN OKTAR: A time when there is no Turkish-Islamic Union will be a time of suffering. There is no solution to that. We see that in the Caucasus and in other regions, and it is still going on. It cannot be stopped; the bloodshed cannot be stopped. The only solution is the Turkish-Islamic Union. Delaying this will make people suffer the consequences. So, we as a nation must come together with all our might as the Turkish nation with Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Turkey, East Turkestan, all the Turkic states and Kyrgyzstan and resolve the issue. Every day that passes inflicts further damage and will be against us, may Allah forbid. Look, it is the lack of a Turkish-Islamic Union that underlies the bloodshed in Georgia, the troubles in Abkhazia, the sufferings of the Russians and everything.



ADNAN OKTAR: These events are continuing because Muslims refuse to adopt the solution. That is for all Muslims to unite, and this is a religious obligation. It is Allah's command. It is obligatory, like performing prayer or fasting. If someone does not perform prayer he is in deviation. If he does not want the Islamic world to unite and act as one he is again in deviation, in other words, in a state of sin. The best answer to this is a Turkish-Islamic Union under the leadership of the Turkish nation, of Turkey, and with the full support of the Turkic states. The reason for regarding the Turkish nation as its leader is that it is very powerful in terms of morality and mujahid spirit. The Turkish nation is a metaphysical one and has a special duty. That is how Allah created it. The Turkish nation is the sword of Allah, the Saifullah. This is not the kind of sword that slices people up, but rather the sword of justice. Together with its justice, moral virtue, love, compassion and honesty the Turkish nation has the strength and experience to permit it to discharge the role of leader to perfection. It has hundreds of years of experience. With very little force it administered Islamic countries on three continents, in total peace and happiness. The same structure now needs to be rebuilt. A Turkish-Islamic Union, like a new Ottoman Empire, is now needed. Everyone will be at ease in such an organization, Christians, Jews, Buddhists, and even atheists. And all the Muslim world will live in tranquility.


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